5 comments

  • Alacart 38 minutes ago
    This makes a ton of sense to me with the huge corpus of web standards that exist. In theory we should be able to generate a browser from those specs, it just took a massive amount of effort before. Maybe if things like this get some traction, some of the human time spent implementing the spec could be spent on creating more/better specs, allowing for even better generation too.
    • nicoburns 2 minutes ago
      As someone who has spent the last 3 years implementing a browser engine from scratch full time (that currently passes ~half the 200k "css" tests that test style/layout/rendering), I find that (without a lot of close hand holding) the AIs are very far from being able to do this. They'll give you something that passes the tests, but it will do it a ridiculous way be far too slow to be useful (and is wrong architecturally such that it's not going to converge on a better solution).
    • wslh 1 minute ago
      I think browser performance (and security) improvements are really difficult to tackle at the browser complexity scale, and are art and engineering. In other words: if this will be possible we would see the results first in existing browsers.
    • troupo 14 minutes ago
      > In theory we should be able to generate a browser from those specs, it just took a massive amount of effort before.

      No, not really. The absolute vast majority of those specs are human technical and technical-adjacent language, not machine-readable specs.

      On top of that many web often invent new terminology because a lot of things are specced years or decades after something popular has taken over the term in userland.

  • fouc 1 hour ago
    I'm looking forward to the day when we have fully functioning web browsers that we have full programmatic control over in all aspects.

    With luck all chromium/blink-based browsers will go the way of the dodo bird.

    • Tade0 43 minutes ago
      I'm afraid internally they would still look like chromium/blink anyway.
  • trencedamp 3 minutes ago
    But can it dance
  • mircerlancerous 37 minutes ago
    This is a neat idea. It opens up a whole new way to make a web app into a native app, while also adding native features not available in web views
  • helpprotactiniu 30 minutes ago
    Is this named like Jev intentionally? Or is this just a new naming convention that I haven't been watching?
    • trencedamp 1 minute ago
      I'm sure this is not the origin, but Bez is a celebrity in England, a member of a 90s band called happy Mondays who didn't sing or play anything but just danced. Famous on the panel show circuit
    • monkpit 16 minutes ago
      Maybe it’s one of those weird LLM smells, like the OpenAI goblin problem.

      https://openai.com/index/where-the-goblins-came-from/