GNU Hurd News 2026-Q2

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68 points | by plaguna 3 days ago

8 comments

  • inigyou 1 hour ago
    Cool to finally see some small silly tech stuff here that isn't trying to make money.
    • oytis 12 minutes ago
      You are calling a Linux (sorry, GNU/Linux) killer small silly stuff?
      • maplant 9 minutes ago
        I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as GNU/Linux, is in fact, just Linux.
    • bofadeez 40 minutes ago
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  • jnpnj 1 hour ago
    It seems Samuel Thibault is still there, sweet.

    ps: some slides from earlier this year https://fosdem.org/2026/events/attachments/7FZXHF-updates_on...

    full vid here https://fosdem.org/2026/schedule/event/7FZXHF-updates_on_gnu...

  • csb6 1 hour ago
    Does anyone more familiar with Hurd know how they addressed performance issues encountered by other Mach-based kernels? I remember reading that one of Mach's bottlenecks was validating that each IPC message had proper permissions/access when sending them between processes due to the large number and frequency of messages.
    • glhaynes 19 minutes ago
      Is there reason to think they've addressed them?
    • floxy 43 minutes ago
      Is that a bottleneck anymore? Maybe something that was appreciable in 1994 isn't a big performance hit in 2026?
      • Analemma_ 30 minutes ago
        Isn't it even worse now? The faster computers get, the more that software-induced bottlenecks hurt.
        • doubled112 7 minutes ago
          I could see just powering through because modern hardware is fast enough to do so being an option.

          Adding 20% to a 10 second operation is a lot longer on a wall clock than adding 20% to a 1 second operation.

          • monocasa 0 minutes ago
            If anything, Mach style IPC has gotten worse because of the greater overhead if kernel/user transitions. Spectre really did a number on context switching overhead.
        • Manozco 17 minutes ago
          I'm not a Hurd contributor ( or any OS kernel / library ).

          I'm not sure this holds today. One example I can see is related to crypto. We used to have specific hardware for computing cryptography functions but it's now handled directly in standard hardware and the software has not evolved ( but it's been faster and faster to compute checksum functions )

  • sirsinsalot 1 hour ago
    I hope Hurd has its day. Maybe in 100 years or something.
    • this_user 1 hour ago
      Instead of rewriting Bun, maybe Anthropic should have thrown some tokens at finishing Hurd.
      • officeplant 39 minutes ago
        We'd have to name it Turd then.
    • achyudh 32 minutes ago
      Relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/1508/
    • EarlKing 1 hour ago
      Fun fact: Duke Nukem Forever shipped before GNU Hurd.
    • lynx97 1 hour ago
      Hurd will have its day once Linux makes it on the desktop :-)
      • adrian_b 57 minutes ago
        While I upvoted this, as being true for the general population, for me Linux has made it on the desktop (and laptop) much more than 2 decades ago, around 2003, when the remaining problems that had forced me to use dual-booting with Windows had been solved (i.e. when it became possible in Linux to play movies, read DVDs and use TV tuners). When that happened, I wiped out Windows from my computers.

        If you have a pro to help you, already for a long time Linux has been fine on the desktop for anyone. My parents, over 80 years old, have used Linux on their PCs for many years, and they did not even know what "Linux" is. That was possible because I installed and configured for them the operating system and all the applications they needed for reading and writing documents, Internet browsing, e-mail, music listening and movie watching etc.

        Windows is easy only because it comes preinstalled. I have installed Windows at work on many kinds of computers and during installation I have encountered much more problems impossible to solve for a non-expert than when installing Linux.

      • pjmlp 1 hour ago
        Linux has made it to the desktop, packaged inside VMs served by Apple, Microsoft and Google.
        • metalliqaz 1 hour ago
          That's not really what everyone means.

          However the recent success of gaming-related distros such as SteamOS and Bazzite seem to be succeeding where Usability-focused distros such as Mint, Pop!, and Zorin couldn't get deep traction

          • inigyou 1 hour ago
            This should be a lesson about providing a product versus providing a technology.

            Ubuntu is "like Windows but not" which is mostly relevant to people boycotting Windows. Steam Deck is "a gamebox" which people who already like games might want to buy. Bazzite is "a thing that turns your computer into a game box."

          • pjmlp 59 minutes ago
            No, but that is what they will ever get from OEMs selling PCs at computer stores used by normies.

            Also lets not forget those distros play Windows games, because hardly any studio bothers with native Linux games.

            • nemomarx 43 minutes ago
              They play both, which is much better for adoption anyway? And it's contributed substantial improvements back to wine and other projects.
        • NoImmatureAdHom 1 hour ago
          It just...has made it. Plenty of power users just use it as their primary OS. I think official figures under-estimate it because many people daily-driving will spoof user agents of other OSes.

          And there's Android.

          • pjmlp 57 minutes ago
            Ah, Android, with a userspace based on Java, Kotlin, C and C++ standard libraries, Android native APIs, without anything related to GNU/Linux, unless it is a rooted device, or one gets to package a full Linux userspace as an APK, which isn't fully compatible due to security enforcement mechanisms.

            I would look into those statistics regarding desktop world wide adoption, distribution per OS.

            • soperj 12 minutes ago
              People using Linux in 1992 would say something similar to people using any of the current flavours of Linux.
            • jhbadger 50 minutes ago
              Anyone who wants it can have Termux which gives you a full Linux experience under Android with GNU tools if you want it, though.
              • pjmlp 47 minutes ago
                No it does not.

                It gives a Linux experience within the security sandbox from Android, which is why there are limitations when using it on regular devices, via PlayStore.

                Also it requires working around the NDK limitations on available POSIX APIs.

            • vkazanov 32 minutes ago
              Oh come on. :-)

              Linux is not userspace. Linux is a kernel, and android is a parallel fork of the kernel. So android is a version of linux but is not GNU/Linux.

              Android/Linux, if you will. We dont have to be shy this.

      • sampo 13 minutes ago
        Eric S. Raymond opines that now that Microsoft makes its profits mainly from Azure, some product owner in Microsoft will be allowed to enshittify Windows for collection short-term profit, thus paving way for Linux on the desktop.

        https://x.com/esrtweet/status/2084605702203424896

      • veqq 1 hour ago
        Linux hit 10% desktop usage recently
    • shevy-java 1 hour ago
      First there will be the Desktop Linux of the year breakthrough. Evil folks say it will coincide with the end of the world via a total global catastrophy but these people don't understand beauty - such as TempleOS, the most perfect OS of all times.
  • isityettime 1 hour ago
    > I plan to build bootable images and boot the kernel on Apple M1

    GuixSD with GNU Hurd would be a really fun way to repurpose an old MBP.

  • shevy-java 1 hour ago
    Next year will be the year of GNU Hurd, as well as The Desktop Linux Year and people really using HaikuOS on real hardware for years. You read it here first!
  • p0w3n3d 2 hours ago
    Wow.