Tell HN: docker pull fails in spain due to football cloudflare block

I just spent 1h+ debugging why my locally-hosted gitlab runner would fail to create pipelines. The gitlab job output would just display weird TLS errors when trying to pull a docker images. After debugging gitlab and the runner, I realized after a while I could not even run "docker pull <image>" on my machine as root:

> error pulling image configuration: download failed after attempts=6: tls: failed to verify certificate: x509: certificate is not valid for any names, but wanted to match docker-images-prod.6aa30f8b08e16409b46e0173d6de2f56.r2.cloudflarestorage.com

First blaming tailscale, dns configuration and all other stuff. Until I just copied that above URL into my browser on my laptop, and received a website banner:

> El acceso a la presente dirección IP ha sido bloqueado en cumplimiento de lo dispuesto en la Sentencia de 18 de diciembre de 2024, dictada por el Juzgado de lo Mercantil nº 6 de Barcelona en el marco del procedimiento ordinario (Materia mercantil art. 249.1.4)-1005/2024-H instado por la Liga Nacional de Fútbol Profesional y por Telefónica Audiovisual Digital, S.L.U. https://www.laliga.com/noticias/nota-informativa-en-relacion-con-el-bloqueo-de-ips-durante-las-ultimas-jornadas-de-laliga-ea-sports-vinculadas-a-las-practicas-ilegales-de-cloudflare

For those non-spanish speakers: It means there is football match on, and during that time that specific host is blocked. This is just plain madness. I guess that means my gitlab pipelines will not run when football is on. Thank you, Spain.

335 points | by littlecranky67 5 hours ago

29 comments

  • danirod 3 hours ago
    Heh, lucky you, at least you get a message. My ISP just drops traffic to the affected IPs. No ping, no traceroute, just a spinner in the browser until it says "page not found".

    Every response and comment from LaLiga, the football organization responsible for this, has been so far that this is a minor issue that only affects a few bunch of nerds who talk about "docker images" or "github repositories" or "whatever that means".

    Meanwhile, there are testimonies of smart home devices like anti-theft alarms or automatic doors, that stop working whenever there is a football match, because their backends rely on Cloudflare.

    Last week, a woman asked for help on social media, as the GPS tracking app she uses to see where her father with dementia is, went offline during a match. It was getting late and he still wasn't back home, and she couldn't locate the tag he was wearing to find him: https://www.infobae.com/america/agencias/2026/04/05/laliga-d...

    It's hard to say this, because no one should experience an event like this, but as stressful as these are, it's the only way to make the mainstream people care about this censorship. "I cannot pull a docker image" will never be on nightly news, but safety and personal security is a more powerful driver for discourses.

    • pxc 2 hours ago
      > Heh, lucky you, at least you get a message. My ISP just drops traffic to the affected IPs. No ping, no traceroute, just a spinner in the browser until it says "page not found".

      This is generally how the GFW works in China. Instead of an overbearing nanny like a school or corporation's DNS blocker, you're left with a sense that you're on a version of the Internet that is just intermittently and somewhat mysteriously broken.

      And indeed, in China, a lot of things that probably aren't fully intended to be blocked are not reliably accessible. Implementation varies, so you get strange routing and peering issues. It feels like an Internet that isn't fully formed, that hasn't finished coming together yet.

      Nation states and corporations obviously gain some things sometimes by having Internet censorship/blocking frameworks in place. Maybe, sometimes, ordinary people even benefit, too, if it helps shut down illegal and genuinely harmful businesses.

      But it feels like the whole world is gradually trending towards more and more Internet censorship without realizing that we are un-building a miraculous thing that took enormous effort and cleverness and expense to build. I wish we could think about this not only in terms of freedom (and we absolutely should think about it in terms of freedom), but how we are disintegrating the infrastructure of communication and computing.

      • nrds 33 minutes ago
        > a version of the Internet that is just intermittently and somewhat mysteriously broken.

        That's actually just how the Internet is. Nothing to do with the great firewall.

    • freetanga 2 hours ago
      All people affected should file a complaint with your ISP and with Oficina de Atención al Usuario de Telecomunicaciones claiming financial loss for arbitrary service censorship.
      • embedding-shape 1 hour ago
        I've been filing complaints since a year ago, told others to do the same too, nothing happens. There been moments I've meant to deploy fixes to issues but I cannot, because some tooling goes offline.

        I've claimed financial loss, claimed sanity loss and everything in-between, but I'm afraid unless something reaches the European/EU courts, Spain will continue to be in the pocket of the La Liga owners.

        Straight up fucking censorship with wide collateral being completely accepted in a Western country in 2026, beyond comprehension how this is allowed.

        • ryandrake 40 minutes ago
          Whenever I get a little down over how much power unelected corporations have in my country, I can at least cheer myself up a little by being thankful that something as stupid as football doesn't have enough power here to control whether or not I have internet access.
          • embedding-shape 18 minutes ago
            Ignorance is a bliss, agree :) Sometimes we all need to force ourselves into that so we can get a bit more joy.
        • lentil_soup 1 hour ago
          how do you make claims, here: https://usuariosteleco.digital.gob.es/? Can't find a way of doing it with Cl@ve
      • loloquwowndueo 25 minutes ago
        It would be great if there was a webpage with clear instructions on how to do this, maybe fill out a few questions and get a printable pdf you can mail, or at least telling you how to file an online complaint. Making complaints very low friction will lead to more of those and perhaps more attention to the issue.

        Snail mail uses up physical space so it might get more attention, it would be hilarious to see news reports of truckloads of complaint mail being dumped in front of the whatever office.

        • embedding-shape 15 minutes ago
          > It would be great if there was a webpage with clear instructions on how to do this, maybe fill out a few questions and get a printable pdf you can mail, or at least telling you how to file an online complaint. Making complaints very low friction will lead to more of those and perhaps more attention to the issue.

          This is a great idea, we definitively should make this happen! If people are curious on collaborating on something, reach out, email in profile (English or Spanish emails welcome!).

      • bakugo 2 hours ago
        Sadly, it won't accomplish anything. La Liga seems to have enough political power in the country to bury all of that. Probably bribing everyone involved.
        • cluckindan 1 hour ago
          Corruption at that level could mean organized crime. Is there a culture of betting through illegal bookies, are they fixing matches, or ¿porque no los dos?
          • embedding-shape 58 minutes ago
            Well, I think when the organized crime is registered as proper businesses and they have the judges on their side even if the law isn't, I think we just call that "for-profit capitalism" nowadays.
          • dualvariable 57 minutes ago
            penalti para el real madrid!
      • pixl97 2 hours ago
        Yep, flood them with complaints.
    • tobz1000 17 minutes ago
      > there are testimonies of smart home devices like anti-theft alarms or automatic doors, that stop working whenever [...] because their backends rely on Cloudflare.

      The fault here lies 100% with horribly designed IoT devices that turn into bricks when they lose internet connection.

    • the_gipsy 2 hours ago
      It's ridiculous and wrong what LaLiga does. But it's also a weakeup call to consider ditching cloudflare's centralization.
      • estebank 1 hour ago
        The companies relying on cloudflare won't be in Spain. If you buy a GPS tracker by a Canadian company, developed in India, manufactured in China, they are unlikely to know, even it they cared, that a single country that accounts for a tiny percentage of their sales breaks fundamental internet infrastructure on the regular "because fútbol y dinero".

        And when purchasing a product, there's no "bill of materials" telling you about the services it relies on, beyond "internet connection" at best.

        • encom 1 hour ago
          >fundamental internet infrastructure

          I'm not saying this situation isn't bullshit, but the bigger problem is that CloudFlare is now "fundamental internet infrastructure". This is precisely the situation that the internet was designed to prevent.

          Yesterday I got stuck in endless CloudFlare CAPTCHA's, trying to access theretroweb.com. I had to give up. Many such cases. I hate CloudFlare so much, it's unreal.

          • embedding-shape 1 hour ago
            > This is precisely the situation that the internet was designed to prevent

            Right, but on the other hand, our constitution and laws are supposed to give us the rights to access a internet where the government cannot block entire companies who host websites, because a few bad websites are hosted there.

            Not to mention all us freelancers, contractors and just in general computing users, who sometimes want to continue working although 90% of the country is watching football, we should be able to do so even if pirates use Cloudflare for shitty stuff.

            I agree that Cloudflare sucks, people should avoid defaulting to putting Cloudflare in front of absolutely everything they do and I too get stuck at the CAPTCHAs sometimes. But that doesn't remove the fact that Cloudflare, just like every other lawful company, should be allowed to be visited during La Liga matches.

    • boredatoms 1 hour ago
      Perhaps its time to put a VPN into all your CI jobs
      • tryauuum 51 minutes ago
        You can't fight political issues with clever technical solutions
        • peanut-walrus 39 minutes ago
          Yes you can. Fight with clever technical solutions and the politics will follow once the solution becomes common or displays its usefulness. It is in fact the most effective way to fight dumb political issues.
          • tryauuum 36 minutes ago
            In my country (Russia) the politics followed, now the ISPs block the OpenVPN and wireguard packets. And sometimes the white list mode is enabled, so you cannot connect, with your clever custom VPN solution, to a host outside the country
        • psychoslave 41 minutes ago
          That's actually part of rebellion modus operandi, so totally something realistic. But not within the frame of law and not in the sweet position of someone away from the "I'll die for the just cause" mindset.
          • tryauuum 31 minutes ago
            can you rephrase your idea please. What's realistic, fighting stupid laws or corporations with a VPN? Yes, but not for long. They are always stronger than you, they can switch from blacklisting to whitelisting and your VPN becomes useless.

            What is this "sweet position" you talk about?

  • ordersofmag 1 minute ago
    Interesting alternative. Cloudflare (market cap $58B) buys La liga (market value $5 billion), drops suit.
  • mrvaibh 2 hours ago
    This is a great example of why blanket IP blocking is such a terrible enforcement mechanism. Cloudflare hosts hundreds of thousands of services behind shared IP ranges — blocking one IP to stop a piracy stream takes out everything else on that IP, including Docker registries, API endpoints, and CDNs that have nothing to do with football.

      The real fix on your end until Spain sorts this out: set up a pull-through registry cache (e.g. registry:2 with proxy.remoteurl) on a VPS outside Spain, and point your Docker daemon's mirror config at it. Your
      GitLab runner pulls from the cache, the cache pulls from Docker Hub via a non-blocked IP. Also insulates you from Docker Hub rate limits.
    
      But yeah, the fact that a court order about football streaming can break docker pull for an entire country is genuinely absurd.
    • embedding-shape 1 hour ago
      > This is a great example of why blanket IP blocking is such a terrible enforcement mechanism

      AFAIK, they're not doing "blanket IP blocking", they're intercepting requests based on DNS and IP, and try to serve their own certificates and their own content. Obviously, in most cases it fails, as the certificate doesn't match the site, so the browser rejects it, but as far as I can see and tell, there is no "blanket IP blocks", more like "DNS and IP interception".

      The difference doesn't really matter in practice, sucks regardless, but I thought I'd clarify for the ones who are not experiencing these blocks themselves at least.

    • tom1337 1 hour ago
      just wait until they block Azure as well so the official La Liga site also stops working
      • jacquesm 13 minutes ago
        Hmmm. Don't they have a reporting form or something like that? Down with those filthy Azure pirates on IP 52.166.113.188.
  • utrack 3 hours ago
    They block the whole of Cloudflare R2, I believe the Docker hub is just (heh) a collateral.

    When the La Liga match starts, everything that's proxied via CF (including zero access reverse tunnels) stops working.

    There's even a website made for checking if the match is on: https://hayahora.futbol/

    You can check if your host is affected: https://hayahora.futbol/#comprobador&domain=docker-images-pr...

    • mr_mitm 3 hours ago
      Why do they do that? Sorry, I don't speak Spanish.
      • michaelt 1 hour ago
        The football league would rather not have pirates livestream their ~90 minute games.

        Pirates would rather not be blocked, so they create a new, disposable website for every game. Any blocking must happen fast.

        Cloudflare would rather not block websites without a court order specifying the sites to be blocked.

        The courts would rather not create a special fast lane through the courts, just to resolve a squabble between two huge corporations.

        • n6242 1 hour ago
          > The football league would rather not have pirates livestream their ~90 minute games.

          Funny enough, I work in IT and I've had to use a VPN to be able to do my job when soccer is on, but my two non-tech-savy family members that do watch soccer using pirate livestreams say that they've never had any issues with blocked streams.

          • KAMSPioneer 28 minutes ago
            I work in IT and have found that the issue impacts my work but not my ability to stream sports from sites of questionable legality. Of course, I don't pirate La Liga matches but that's primarily because I don't give a shit about soccer.

            But the point is that the measure does more to block legitimate use than illegitimate (in my experience). And next they want to go after VPNs. Wonderful.

          • spwa4 1 hour ago
            But you must realize, the alternative to this is that some very wealthy Spanish companies ... lose a small amount of money.

            Surely you understand now. Go about your business, poor person.

            • ryandrake 37 minutes ago
              They don't even "lose a small amount of money." They simply gain less money than usual for a short period of time. Think of how rough that is for them.
        • lentil_soup 1 hour ago
          > Cloudflare would rather not block websites without a court order specifying the sites to be blocked.

          why would they?

          > squabble between two huge corporations

          I think this is just LaLiga using it's cultural and economical power, don't think Cloudflare or the courts should be making exceptions just so they can control how people watch football

          • mlyle 17 minutes ago
            > why would they?

            Well, in this case, the alternative is all of Spain intermittently blocking lots of Cloudflare.

            But if Cloudflare bows to Spain in this case, every jurisdiction will want to pile up lots of special case rules for Cloudflare to try and implement.

          • gruez 1 hour ago
            >why would they?

            Plenty of companies proactively take action against shady users, even if not 100% required under law. Youtube has content id, social media companies have "community guidelines", and ISPs have AUPs.

      • quadrifoliate 3 hours ago
        Here's a good English-language article about it, with a timeline: https://daniel.es/blog/cloudflare-vs-la-liga/

        Looks like same old regulatory capture.

        • maest 1 hour ago
          Also, a classic tweet from the Cloudflare CEO re their fight with Italians authorities re censorship:

          https://xcancel.com/eastdakota/status/2009654937303896492

          Everyone looks bad in this conflict.

          • post-it 1 hour ago
            How does this make Matthew look bad?
            • encom 1 hour ago
              Matt acting like he's a free speech absolutist. Hilarious.
              • bethekidyouwant 35 minutes ago
                On a scale of oppression he certainly leans towards free.
              • petcat 49 minutes ago
                Italy and Spain are the bad actors here. Not cloudflare.
              • nslsm 33 minutes ago
                HN in 2026: free speech is hilarious.
                • encom 7 minutes ago
                  You have it backwards. I'm the free speech absolutist. Cloudflare is not.
      • prmoustache 2 hours ago
        Because LaLiga and football in general is what is governing Spain really.
      • lentil_soup 1 hour ago
        to stop people pirating football streams while matches are on. Insanity
      • bakugo 2 hours ago
        The website has a language selector on the right just below the initial screen, just FYI.
      • ShowalkKama 3 hours ago
        to """"""""""prevent piracy""""""""""
  • jjcm 51 minutes ago
    Barring an Internet giant suing them in court, it really feels like this is unlikely to change as most just don’t understand the why or the effect.

    Someone needs to write a heist movie set in Spain where a key part of the plan is they steal something while La Liga is blocking some key security route.

  • pfortuny 10 minutes ago
    > instado por la Liga Nacional de Fútbol Profesional y por Telefónica Audiovisual Digital,

    (The trial was initiated by LaLiga and Telefonica...).

    "Telefonica" is the (exclusive) distributor for the rights of streaming the matches, and is only (of course?) the main consumer (and business) Telco in Spain: they are in a game they cannot lose. This is such an abuse and no government (this, past, whichever) has done anything about it.

  • jcalvinowens 1 hour ago
    This is the moral equivalent of shutting the water off for a whole city because one dude's house has a leak. The harms to society clearly and obviously outweigh any possible benefits to society. But if that one dude has the power to shut it all off, and doesn't care...
  • torben-friis 1 hour ago
    As a Spaniard, I would be very happy it cloudflare stops serving Spain. The situation is beyond stupid and I know without international pressure and shaming we're not getting rid of this abuse.
    • littlecranky67 1 hour ago
      They should at least do a single "awareness day" during which they block the same IPs and sites they are ordered by court, as if there was a football match on. Ideally with a 7 days public notice announcement. Probably won't happen though, as their contractual obligation won't allow for voluntary suspension of services.
  • yangm97 1 hour ago
    Maybe it’s time to reflect upon the reliance on centralized services? Not long ago docker hub started rate limiting access and we all turned to blanket solutions like the GitLab registry cache. I wonder if the IPFS distributed docker registry thing still exists/works.
  • pjc50 3 hours ago
    This is why technology businesses and professionals need to take a little bit of an active role in local politics. Otherwise you get nonsense.
    • DocTomoe 2 hours ago
      That's an interesting euphenism for 'spend a massive amount of money on ~~corruption~~ lobbying',
      • lentil_soup 1 hour ago
        not necesarilly, any government will make decisions, if there's no one to speak up and inform them why the decision is stupid, like the one from LaLiga, then we end up in this situation
        • afh1 1 hour ago
          This is incredibly naive.
          • lentil_soup 1 hour ago
            ok, then what do you suggest? we don't get involved and decisions at the government level are made for us? I might be naive, but let's not be restrained by the cynicism of any involment in politics and governance is corruption
          • embedding-shape 1 hour ago
            What? This is how governance and public opinion happen, at least in Spain. Government does something bad? Everyone out on the streets to complain, and calling politicians to change their mind.

            Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not, but doing nothing is never an option if you disagree with what they're doing. To think that doing nothing is better than something, that's incredibly naive.

            • ryandrake 35 minutes ago
              Doing nothing can't be better, but it's entirely possible that doing nothing has exactly the equal effect as doing something.
              • embedding-shape 25 minutes ago
                > but it's entirely possible

                You're right, it possibly has the same effect. How could we figure out what's the actual answer in practice?

  • giorgioz 1 hour ago
    POSSIBLE FIX:

    I think changing your default DNS servers to Google 8.8.8.8 or Cloudflare 1.1.1.1 might bypass the spanish sunday ban on Cloudlflare.

    macOS + Cloudlfare 1.1.1.1 https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/setup/macos/

    Google 8.8.8.8 https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using

    • echoangle 29 minutes ago
      I don’t think it’s a DNS ban, it looks like they actually ban connections to the IP range.

      But you can just use a VPN.

  • Dibby053 32 minutes ago
    Going to play devil's advocate here but I suspect if Cloudflare had been more cooperative about taking down illegal content, LaLiga would not have resorted to blanket blocking individual IPs.

    I would really like to understand more about the process that they should follow but didn't / followed but didn't satisfy them / doesn't exist, in order to remove infringing websites quickly from CloudFlare.

  • gchamonlive 1 hour ago
    Here in Brazil sometimes my ISP goes into a weird state where I can't SSH into a remote machune. Got two ISP links here and still sometimes I need to resort to Mullvad to get stable internet
  • sigio 4 hours ago
    Time to use a VPN in your docker pipelines ;) Or run your systems outside of Spain.

    Or can this be avoided by using an alternate DNS?

    • darkwater 3 hours ago
      They are planning to also block VPN providers during football matches, see https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/la-liga-w...
      • prmoustache 3 hours ago
        When talking about VPNs, it doesn't have to mean "third party VPN". You can host your own on any VPN service outside of Spain.
        • darkwater 2 hours ago
          Yes, but that's not something many can do easily. Also already having to use a VPN is not the "right" solution. The right so solution is to beat some sense inside some politician's head, and force them to write and approve laws that don't let stupid (or conniving) judges pass orders like this one we are talking about.
          • prmoustache 2 hours ago
            I agree it is not the right solution.

            But anyone who is pulling docker images in a sunday afternoon while the rest of the country is glued to their screen to watch a football game or enjoying a sunny sunday outside having beers and tapas and what not should be capable of setting up wireguard.

          • msh 35 minutes ago
            It takes very light technical skills to deploy algo
          • marginalia_nu 1 hour ago
            Given the context of the HN audience, it's probably something you can do.
      • Mordisquitos 3 hours ago
        They are not "planning" to block VPNs. A technologically illiterate judge has ordered it, but there are no plans nor mechanisms to enforce it.
        • darkwater 2 hours ago
          The exact same stupid mechanism they are already using. Forcing ISPs to blackhole whole subnets if they belong to the VPN provider ASN(s).
        • chrismustcode 3 hours ago
          If they can block IPs of cloudflare what extra mechanisms would be needed to block VPN IPs?
          • chmod775 3 hours ago
            The only viable way to even get most of them is to shut down internet access entirely. It's not a realistic solution, unlike blocking a few well known IP ranges belonging to a large corp like Cloudflare.

            And even if you managed to get them all beforehand, some VPN providers will adapt and keep some servers in reserve, putting them online just as you managed to block the previous ones. Getting around internet censorship is a large chunk of their business, and some are really good at it.

            • echoangle 26 minutes ago
              You don’t really need to block all, you just need to annoy the users enough that paying is easier. And I think there are enough games to use up the IP reserve pretty quickly and getting new ones every time is pretty annoying.
          • mr-wendel 2 hours ago
            It's a game. The VPN marketplace is huge so it's wack-a-mole.

            Big companies don't hide their VPN ASNs. Obscure, for sure, but getting a good list isn't hard. Usually they get blocked.

            Smaller companies may pass under the radar, and have higher tolerance for risky strategies.

            The fringe providers are the problem. They aggressively change IP ranges, front-vs-obscure ownership, and play dirty. Shady folks will resell residential ranges. End-users often get tainted goods.

            ... and you still have the collateral damage game when VPNs host infra with big cloud providers vs colofarms vs self-host, etc.

      • ufocia 3 hours ago
        "A _Sanish_ Court has ordered NordVPN and Proton VPN to block IPs transmitting illegal football streams" [emphasis added], that is inspain.
    • skgsergio 3 hours ago
      Alternate DNS doesn't help, they block at IP level.

      Yes, they block IPs belonging to CDNs (CF including R2, BunnyCDN, CDN77, Fastly, Alibaba, Akamai even)...

    • littlecranky67 2 hours ago
      It is not a DNS based block, but on the IP level. Once I knew what caused the issue, I figured I use one of my Hetzner vServers as an exit node in tailscale.

      But come on, this can't be true. I wonder how many other people in IT wasted hours on issues and tickets to find out it is due to a football match taking place. Admittedly, chances are low, as football matches are usually outside of office hours.

  • vaylian 4 hours ago
    This is a know issue and it is completely fucked up: https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/cloudflar...

    What Spain does is basically censorship and it's very poorly executed. The docker image registry is only one out of the many collateral victims of this stupid law.

    • embedding-shape 1 hour ago
      > What Spain does is basically censorship and it's very poorly executed

      Basically? It is censorship, with huge collateral damage and regardless of how much we complain or share evidence that the blocks are actually financially harming us, no one seems to care as long as La Liga gets to freely block whatever hoster of websites as they wish.

      • ryandrake 33 minutes ago
        It's just like the Great Firewall of China, except in service of football profits instead of political ideology. I don't know which one is dumber and more disgraceful.
        • embedding-shape 19 minutes ago
          I wouldn't say "instead of", just "also", these "football blocks" are not the first cases of censorship of the internet in Spain.

          womenonweb.org for example was inaccessible for years, just unblocked some years ago. During the latest Catalan independence referendum, the Spanish government blocked a bunch of websites, not the very least the official website of the referendum itself.

          This is just one of the most recent cases, and so far the one with widest regular impact.

  • Magnets 1 hour ago
    BT used to block the entire streamable.com site during football matches
  • Jare 1 hour ago
    It's a disgrace, but apparently all relevant forces still consider soccer the most important thing in the country.
  • dmitrygr 19 minutes ago
    The last sentence of this submission makes no sense. You are in Spain. Allegedly, the country has a representative government. That means that you should have a way to influence the government to fix this idiocy. If, in fact, you don’t, then it is not a representative government and …ahem… further steps may be warranted to remind the government whom they work for.
  • anthk 3 hours ago
    CF could just sue LaLiga and the judge as interrupting and intercepting telecomms it's a really serious crime in Spain. Call the AEPD too because of consumers' right against both ISP and LaLiga's snooping. Another huge fine.

    This is not an issue under the civil code (civilian issues), but something to be dealt under penal (criminal) code.

    In Spanish

    https://www.fiscal.es/memorias/memoria2020/FISCALIA_SITE/rec...

    Oh, and BTW, LaLiga has just partnered with a CF rival.

    Now CF can just sue both like hell because of unfair competition:

    https://nitter.tiekoetter.com/xataka/status/2042658662850724...

    • quadrifoliate 3 hours ago
      Looks like they already tried to appeal the block, and lost:

      https://x.com/jaumepons/status/1904906677335245294

      • buzer 55 minutes ago
        They could potentially file the suit against Spain in European Court of Human Rights if they have exhausted national remedies. ECtHR has previously ruled some blocks to be illegal, but generally in the context where country sought the ban. Of course in both cases Court is the one that actually orders the ban.

        One relevant would be Yildirim v. Turkey where court ordered blocking access to all Google sites because there was one that where someone insulted the memory of Atatürk. This was due to request from Telecommunications Directorate. This then caused the appellant's website to get blocked as well.

        Another one would be Vladimir Kharitonov v. Russia.

    • prmoustache 3 hours ago
      I think they are doing it already.
  • breppp 1 hour ago
    Vote early, vote often
  • jimaek 3 hours ago
    Off topic but I wonder when Cloudflare is going to launch their own Docker registry as a product.
    • ImJasonH 3 hours ago
      It's pretty easy to write your own. I made this one a while ago: https://github.com/chainguard-dev/crow-registry
    • ai_slop_hater 1 hour ago
      • jimaek 1 hour ago
        I've seen it but it's buggy and lacking in features. Feels like an afterthought instead of a real product
    • wqtz 2 hours ago
      Well, Cloudflare does not launch anything. They acquire to build products. Look into all their recent product launches. They acquired a relatively small company and converted the founding team to a product team.

      So, if you want them to build stuff, ask yourself, are there any "Docker Registry" startups out there. If jsdelivr/globalping is not keeping you busy enough... there is an idea

      • jimaek 2 hours ago
        Honestly I would build it if I knew how to properly market it to quickly get users.

        Globalping and jsDelivr took years to gain a meaningful user base

        • wqtz 2 hours ago
          I do not think that is the issue. The recent acquisitions from all these big tech companies did not have any "meaningful" user base to begin with.

          I think your name alone carries significant weight in the industry and you have built a very large community.

          If you even vibe code something with, you will get a stupid amount of money thrown at you and a contract that bounds your existing projects and the next 3-5 years to a particular company as project lead.

          Here is a list of acquisitions Cloudflare made recently: https://blog.cloudflare.com/tag/acquisitions/

          Most of these companies did not have a half dozen paying customer or even a fully fleshed-out product before they were acquired.

          • jimaek 1 hour ago
            I wish I had as much faith in myself as you have in me :)
    • vaylian 3 hours ago
      What would the business case be?
      • jimaek 3 hours ago
        Capture developers and funnel them to the Workers platform
  • lofaszvanitt 1 hour ago
    Good. Cloudflare is the next evil entity on the internet.
  • ahachete 3 hours ago
    Yeah, I know. Welcome to the club :(

    https://x.com/ahachete/status/2035783292549755228

  • anthk 3 hours ago
    Yea, La Liga it's crapping out as always. Docker needs either some I2P gateway, or a Tor service.
  • lordmoma 53 minutes ago
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  • renewiltord 1 hour ago
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    • post-it 1 hour ago
      It's not just docker and tech. Plenty of people depend on tools that use Cloudflare.
      • renewiltord 1 hour ago
        And when you are on your deathbed you will say “I wish I had spent more time on Cloudflare-based products”? I doubt it. No peer-reviewed research has shown people say that.
    • embedding-shape 1 hour ago
      Telling someone what to do is even more American, let people do whatever they want, at the times they want, as long as they don't hurt others, this is the Spanish way.
      • renewiltord 1 hour ago
        Touché. Or should I say “me has tocado señor”. Probably not but it would be funny.
    • Synthetic7346 1 hour ago
      This comment has some "you should smile more" energy
      • renewiltord 1 hour ago
        Smile more. Touch grease. Roll coal.
  • richwater 2 hours ago
    Spain is a failing country. Their economy is in shambles and the government has ceded internet control to a private corporation who runs football games.
    • gruez 1 hour ago
      >Their economy is in shambles

      But it's among the fastest growing in the EU? Granted, part of this is starting from a low base, but it's hardly "in shambles"

      https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.KD.ZG?locat...

      • nslsm 27 minutes ago
        They are doing this by artificially inflating the numbers, destroying the country forever: https://i.imgur.com/0MAeFaF.jpg
        • gruez 16 minutes ago
          >total population change in EU countries

          The figures I cited are for GDP per capita, which accounts for population growth. Moreover immigration should have the opposite effect of depressing per-capita GDP, because immigrants typically take lower skilled jobs, dragging overall productivity down. So if anything, the figures are artificially depressed, not inflated.

    • embedding-shape 1 hour ago
      Spain isn't a perfect country, I don't think any is. But the economy isn't in shambles, only someone who doesn't know what they're talking about would say anything like that. It does suck that La Liga can wield so much power, agree, but this is not related to the economy at all...
    • estebank 1 hour ago
      To note that this isn't the executive or legislative but the judiciary doing the bidding.
  • mathfailure 3 hours ago
    Cloudflare is cancer. And the tumor is now too big.
    • Cpoll 3 hours ago
      You've got it backwards. Spain's ISPs are blocking Cloudflare and other CDNs because of LaLiga/football piracy. CloudFlare isn't doing anything here.
      • sph 3 hours ago
        You are correct, but Cloudflare is still a cancer on the Internet.
        • petcat 3 hours ago
          Rampant bot traffic and scrapers are the real cancer. Until that goes away everyone is going to need cloudflare or some other bot firewall service.
          • adrian_b 2 hours ago
            Perhaps that is true, but the Cloudflare anti-bot protection is too stupid and annoying.

            They should have used a cookie or something else that does not require asking me every few minutes to prove once more that I am not a bot.

            There was a time when Cloudflare had become less intrusive, but for the last months it has begun again to intervene almost each time when opening some pages.

            There is no doubt that anti-bot protection can be implemented in a better way than Cloudflare does, but presumably the alternatives would consume more resources on their servers, so probably they choose whatever minimizes their costs, regardless if that ensures maximum discomfort for Internet users.

            • post-it 1 hour ago
              You're getting frequent verification requests because you're behaving like a bot. Are you modifying your user agent string or using a VPN?
              • encom 1 hour ago
                Who knows what upsets ClownFlare? I'm using Vivaldi on Linux on IPv6 in Denmark with every uBlock filter enabled and Cookie Auto-delete. That seems to confuse and anger CloudFlare and I get CAPTCHA tarpitted constantly.
                • post-it 9 minutes ago
                  > They should have used a cookie or something else that does not require asking me every few minutes to prove once more that I am not a bot.

                  > every uBlock filter enabled and Cookie Auto-delete

                  Hmm

                • bethekidyouwant 30 minutes ago
                  So you know why.
                  • encom 7 minutes ago
                    No, it could be any, or other, totally normal and reasonable factors. Or maybe I posted too much Cloudflare hate on HN and they singled me out.

                    They're in the walls!

                      NO CARRIER
                      +CREG: 0,0
          • Duwensatzaj 2 hours ago
            It won’t. Some people are perfectly happy to destroy and destroy as long as they get some small portion as profit for themselves.
            • sph 1 hour ago
              That, ironically, includes Cloudflare. Without rampant bots making the internet worse for everybody, they wouldn't have as much work. And their portion of profit is anything but small.
      • otterley 1 hour ago
        I know this is an unpopular opinion among freedom maximalists, but:

        It’s precisely because CloudFlare isn’t responding like other CDNs to reasonable demands to cut off pirate origin sites that this mess exists. If they reacted quickly to remove configurations that are obviously facilitating copyright infringement, Spain wouldn’t resort to full scale ASN blocking.

        How do we know it’s CloudFlare? Because other CDNs like CloudFront, Akamai, Fastly, etc. respond to takedown demands and aren’t being blocked. (Those also cost money and require customer identification.)

        In an escalating war between the state and a corporation, the state will always prevail if they have the public’s backing. In Spain it’s clear that most people are happy to watch the match through legitimate channels even at the cost of blocking CloudFlare.

      • jbxntuehineoh 2 hours ago
        cf is failing to comply with Spanish law and as a result is being blocked in Spain
    • skgsergio 3 hours ago
      I can agree on how much power on the global traffic they have, but this blocks affect many other CDNs like Fastly, Akamai, CDN77, BunnyCDN, Alibaba...
    • petcat 3 hours ago
      Spain is mandating their ISPs block cloudflare to stop people from illegally streaming soccer games. Cloudflare isn't the one doing the blocking.
    • StrLght 3 hours ago
      You made a few typos in "LaLiga"
    • ufocia 3 hours ago
      How so?