I love diagramming, but I genuinely don't understand how people can use these wonky looking tools. It looks off, I had to make my own[1] to create something that's easy to use and looks good/normal.
I like the wonky, hand-drawn looking style. I think it fits well beause usually if I use a diagram it's not 100% precise and accurate, but more a high-level illustration. The wonky style conveys the approximate precision of the presented concept.
I agree 100% it's personal, wasn't trying to imply anything else, but for me the style takes away from the actual content and makes it harder to read/grasp.
Depends on what you want to achieve with your look. Do you want to scream professionalism, authority, and completed?
Use a regular UML tool.
Want to say this is a rough draft of a few ideas? Then using UML is probably THE wrong look. And Exaclidraw should be used instead.
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Anecdote time. According to one of my professors, they showed how the prototype will look in action, and the customers were so impressed by the smoke and mirrors prototype they wanted to start using it right away.
In the end, customer walked away because they thought they were being strung along to pay for something that was already done.
I have noticed diagrams are most useful early in thinking, but once things get complex they either become outdated or too hard to maintain. Curious how people here deal with that, do you keep diagrams in sync with code, or treat them as disposable?
Author here: I use mermaid lot as well and for some things like process flows, and to model interactions it it outrules excalidraw and posts will follow where i need exactly that. but to visualize things high level i find excalidraw way nicer.
The Excalidraw website describes itself as: Excalidraw is a virtual collaborative whiteboard tool that lets you easily sketch diagrams that have a hand-drawn feel to them.
And the GitHub repo says: An open source virtual hand-drawn style whiteboard.
Collaborative and end-to-end encrypted.
I made a custom Payload CMS block that allows to create and update excalidraw diagrams within the CMS. It supports dark and light mode switching and rendering inline or as external SVG.
And last weekend I added MCP server with Oauth so I could generate and update those diagrams and add them to post drafts from Claude. I think it is more convenient since I don't have to use API billing model and don't need to build a custom UI.
Originally I wanted to sync posts from Obsidian but it doesn't have good enough image handling which I sometimes need and I needed extra metadata to unlist or password protect or noindex some posts.
Everyone does that these days and they are becoming AI tells like the em-dash or the blue-glow of the early AI generated images that everyone added to their blog posts.
AI can generate mermaid diagrams, not excalidraw. If you use the mermaid to excalidraw, i guess it can be, but it just looks like a mermaid diagram then and not an excalidraw.
I simply just draw in excalidraw and take a ss and past it in my obsidian note, I have a setup that automatically parses posts from my vault and then pushes them to my site
You can also bootstrap your initial schema with LLMs with the excalidraw MCP "app" [0]. But MCP "apps"[1] are quite new and not very well supported yet.
I didn't have good experience with excalidraw-mcp when it first came out a month ago; the Claude-generated diagrams were too raw/unpolished. I'm sticking to mermaid for now but I'm interested in hearing how people make exclidraw-mcp work for them
Documentation often rots away because it's often decoupled from the code it describes.
I'm a huge fan of anything related to code that can I check into git, track its evolution and the thinking that went behind it. Why was Kubernetes chosen? Why was NATs chosen? Why are the topics named the way they are?
I am a huge fan of mermaid diagrams because it lets me check in my diagrams into git. I am a huge fan of mermaid diagrams because my code can generate diagrams that I (or they) can check into git - and this was before AI.
Now that AI can generate mermaid diagrams, people look at my Git repos and go "oh, you use AI a lot!" - then I point to my git history and they see it's from 2018.
I'm really happy that mermaid and related tools like Excalidraw are taking off - we have another chance at documentation being automated, uptodate and "fresh".
Same. I started using it for Gethly blog. It's not perfect, some things make me crazy but overall it is better than draw.io that I used to use before. Excalidraw also has these great styles that just feel right :)
I use Excalidraw extensively at work. For me, it's really close to perfection.
It has an excellent UI, selections work way better than Lucid or Figma etc, the sketchy look makes it clear designs are rough and not blueprints, it's private and loads instantly.
The one negative is that it's a pain to get the multiplayer self-hosted version running.
Both Excalidraw and TLDraw are the two most popular apps of their kind, simplistic whiteboard tools, so I don't think it's that surprising and I don't see any reason why this post should be a "Show HN".
For me, draw.io is still the winner, and especially now that it runs locally also on Linux. As for works in progress, I hope this one succeeds (and would also run locally at some point):
I love excalidraw, but don't need the excalidraw+. But Excalidraw open source is the frontend only, which means I have to delete my drawings each time. So I built the backend so I can create many canvases.
Your site makes me make an account before I can use it, whereas excalidraw.com doesn't, and also excalidraw.com seems to save my drawing just fine? I closed a tab and reopened it and my drawing was still there, presumably from localStorage.
The three-lines-menu also has a "Save to..." option that lets you create a sharable link or save to your local disk.
I've always liked umlet and umletino (web version) for a nice mix of drag and drop and edit by text editor. In the absence of good enough layout algorithms, the ability to manually drag things to the right place is kind of essential. The resulting diagrams are not so pretty of course.
I have tried a lot of tools in this space. If it comes out looking alright, that's usually because it was so simple that it didn't actually need a diagram. Anything with a bit of non trivial structure seems to quickly escalate with essentially no good options other then esoteric hacks with styling to make it look any good.
This seems to be a thing where you can have pretty automated layouts, complex diagrams, or correct diagrams and can only have two out of three.
Which means that almost 100% of my use cases for these tools never really work for me unless I sit down and grab some old school drawing tool (or just give up on the whole notion, which is much more likely). If it was trivial, I wouldn't bother making a diagram. These tools seem only usable for stuff where diagrams were overkill to begin with. I saw no examples on the linked article (and the rest of the site; I browsed the top few recent articles) to really counter this.
[1] https://grafly.io
Also, and that's personal, I think it's cute.
Excalidraw is my favourite thinking tool, and the style it produces is just the right level of limiting, disarming, and professional at the same time.
I went a different route using diagram-as-code with Mermaid instead of manual drawing.
[1] https://graphlet.xyz
Depends on what you want to achieve with your look. Do you want to scream professionalism, authority, and completed? Use a regular UML tool.
Want to say this is a rough draft of a few ideas? Then using UML is probably THE wrong look. And Exaclidraw should be used instead.
--- Anecdote time. According to one of my professors, they showed how the prototype will look in action, and the customers were so impressed by the smoke and mirrors prototype they wanted to start using it right away.
In the end, customer walked away because they thought they were being strung along to pay for something that was already done.
And the GitHub repo says: An open source virtual hand-drawn style whiteboard. Collaborative and end-to-end encrypted.
It's the intended design...
I made a custom Payload CMS block that allows to create and update excalidraw diagrams within the CMS. It supports dark and light mode switching and rendering inline or as external SVG.
And last weekend I added MCP server with Oauth so I could generate and update those diagrams and add them to post drafts from Claude. I think it is more convenient since I don't have to use API billing model and don't need to build a custom UI.
Here is an example post: https://www.janhouse.lv/blog/network/self-hosting-tailscale-...
Originally I wanted to sync posts from Obsidian but it doesn't have good enough image handling which I sometimes need and I needed extra metadata to unlist or password protect or noindex some posts.
[1]: https://darshanmakwana412.github.io/2026/03/a-system-of-jour...
[0] -- https://github.com/excalidraw/excalidraw-mcp
[1] -- https://modelcontextprotocol.io/extensions/apps/overview
https://xkcd.com/about/
I'm a huge fan of anything related to code that can I check into git, track its evolution and the thinking that went behind it. Why was Kubernetes chosen? Why was NATs chosen? Why are the topics named the way they are?
I am a huge fan of mermaid diagrams because it lets me check in my diagrams into git. I am a huge fan of mermaid diagrams because my code can generate diagrams that I (or they) can check into git - and this was before AI.
Now that AI can generate mermaid diagrams, people look at my Git repos and go "oh, you use AI a lot!" - then I point to my git history and they see it's from 2018.
I'm really happy that mermaid and related tools like Excalidraw are taking off - we have another chance at documentation being automated, uptodate and "fresh".
Now it reads like an ad for some extension to a program I've never heard about.
https://github.com/excalidraw/excalidraw
It has an excellent UI, selections work way better than Lucid or Figma etc, the sketchy look makes it clear designs are rough and not blueprints, it's private and loads instantly.
The one negative is that it's a pain to get the multiplayer self-hosted version running.
A self-hosted version with storage (multiplayer) plus any Claude access would be a killer setup for team planning etc and let us drop Miro.
TLDraw: https://www.tldraw.com/
Excalidraw: https://excalidraw.com/
TikzMaker: https://tikzmaker.com/
https://drawx.ossy.dev
https://github.com/AykutSarac/excalihub
The three-lines-menu also has a "Save to..." option that lets you create a sharable link or save to your local disk.
But in general AI-diagramming is still unsolved; needs several iterations to get rid of wonky/wrong arrows, misplaced boxes, misplaced text etc.
I have tried a lot of tools in this space. If it comes out looking alright, that's usually because it was so simple that it didn't actually need a diagram. Anything with a bit of non trivial structure seems to quickly escalate with essentially no good options other then esoteric hacks with styling to make it look any good.
This seems to be a thing where you can have pretty automated layouts, complex diagrams, or correct diagrams and can only have two out of three.
Which means that almost 100% of my use cases for these tools never really work for me unless I sit down and grab some old school drawing tool (or just give up on the whole notion, which is much more likely). If it was trivial, I wouldn't bother making a diagram. These tools seem only usable for stuff where diagrams were overkill to begin with. I saw no examples on the linked article (and the rest of the site; I browsed the top few recent articles) to really counter this.