Big Breakfast Alters Appetite, Gut Health

(cambridge.org)

35 points | by wjb3 1 hour ago

7 comments

  • abainbridge 1 hour ago
    The abstract begins, "Growing evidence supports early eating to control appetite and energy balance". What does that mean? My unskilled reading of it is that there is recent evidence that eating breakfast helps with weight loss. But I'm confused because there was a 2019 meta-analysis that found that eating breakfast does NOT help with weight loss. https://www.bmj.com/content/364/bmj.l42
    • tonyedgecombe 57 minutes ago
      The problem there might be what people are eating for breakfast.
  • chairhairair 1 hour ago
    19 participants.
    • Oras 1 hour ago
      >> therefore 19 participants completed the study (2 females and 17 males) and their data are presented throughout

      Who in their own mind decided that this is a "study" worth publishing?

      • godelski 29 minutes ago
        You're reading the study wrong.

        You read

          We saw this effect, so it's real. 
        
        In actuality it is

          We saw this effect in a small study, so it's worth doing a larger study.
        
        It's worth publishing because it's evidence and motivation to do further studying. And if you're asking "Why not start large?" the answer is obvious: money.
        • steve_adams_86 7 minutes ago
          Especially in dietary studies. You either spend a lot on high quality, controlled studies where you can nail down parameters (takes a LOT of labour), or you spend on facilitating much larger studies where you make up for precision and control with volume.

          There are trade offs in either case and some types of research where one is more suitable than the other. But the best case is a combination of the two, and it's exceedingly rare.

          Maybe there are other options but this seems to be the polar nature of these studies from what I've seen.

      • kibibu 25 minutes ago
        The paper includes a section on power analysis which justifies the sample size (although the justification is for a sample of 20, they recruited 25 eligible participants and lost 6 in screening).

        Some points though:

        - A within-participants study has inherently more power than a between-subjects study. Trying two different diets with the same person removes a lot of variables that you'd need to control for in between-subjects studies (and yes, they randomized the order of intervention and found no difference based on order)

        - It looks like this was conducted in a way that supported compliance with the protocol, and using analysis techniques that would be unwieldy for a much larger sample size.

        Even with N=19, the reported significance is very compelling.

      • AnEro 1 hour ago
        Someone with quotas
    • yokoprime 1 hour ago
      Average age was 57, which may be rather high. Also: why not test out combining both diets?
    • mijoharas 1 hour ago
      That was the point I stopped reading.
  • puppycodes 13 minutes ago
    study says we should do a real study
  • hristov 1 hour ago
    Interesting but they had no control.
    • benmaraschino 47 minutes ago
      They used a crossover design, so each subject served as their own control. Not a bad choice for trials like this as you gain a lot of statistical power with fewer participants than a parallel-arm, non-crossover design.
    • baxtr 1 hour ago
      The whole study design seems odd.

      Why not add a third high-fiber + high-protein group for example?

      • VLM 1 hour ago
        They would have needed 20 participants, which is too many.

        Soon we will have more participants in the HN comments for the study, than were studied in the study.

      • Aeglaecia 25 minutes ago
        im thinking you would need a group to skip breakfast too ...
    • AnEro 1 hour ago
      I feel like the regular weight loss group was? Since it isn't necessarily rocket science for having mostly men stay in an easily determinable caloric deficit to lose weight. (Women have usually would be harder due to more conditions and hormone interactions that make finding a TDEE not as simple.)
    • Apocryphon 50 minutes ago
      They didn't eat that much.
  • dfex 52 minutes ago
    It sounds like this study might have been funded by.... Big Breakfast.

    I'll see myself out.

    • nobody083648 47 minutes ago
      Dammit I came here to make this joke
  • mike_d 21 minutes ago
    TLDR: A weight loss diet centered around a big breakfast yields weight loss results. That breakfast loaded with protein made you feel fuller and suppressed your appetite (which helps you follow a diet), where a fiber loaded diet produced more beneficial gut bacteria.

    The study has a pretty small sample size, but it seems well designed and matches what you'd expect.