"What LLVM Claims, but Fails to Deliver"

(skanthak.hier-im-netz.de)

5 points | by achierius 15 hours ago

3 comments

  • rcxdude 9 hours ago
    What's the purpose of the author just listing these on their site instead of reporting the bugs to LLVM? They even seem to be actively hostile to their proposed fixes being used, given the copyright notices on pretty trivial functions and the 'terms of service' at the bottom of the page (i.e. it might be a bad idea for an LLVM contributer to read this page).
    • markemer 6 hours ago
      Yeah - I didn't understand the hostility - if these fixes had been refused or not even considered, than maybe, but they all seem like honest bugs that need fixing.
    • 1over137 9 hours ago
      Years ago, bugs I would file against Clang got attention, these days it seems like a black hole.

      I have no data or inside insight, but my feeling is that most contributors only work on what their employer wants, and bugs from the public are not relevant.

      Still better that’s its open source than not though!

      • csb6 1 hour ago
        I think many of these bugs are major enough that employers would want them fixed (e.g. not respecting ABI on Windows). A lot of effort has been put into LLVM’s optimizer and code generators so presumably this is something they value.

        They track regressions in compile time and other metrics like instruction count for a bunch of benchmark programs on https://llvm-compile-time-tracker.com

  • 12_throw_away 8 hours ago
    From the same author: "Deficiencies in GCC's code generator and optimiser" [1]

    [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39835693

    This person certainly seems to enjoy writing polemics about compiler output (although I'm not sure I could tell you what, exactly, it is that they're mad about)

    • markemer 6 hours ago
      Yeah, I thought maybe he was a big fan of GCC or something, but he just seems to not like compilers? Or likes complaining about them?
      • altairprime 5 hours ago
        That’s a popular trend in video games, too; quite a lot of people invest a second hobby’s worth of energy into their complaints, with the occasional gem in the rough among them. You can find this in any hobby - like, I know nothing about golf, but I am absolutely certain if I asked a golfer “what changed in golf clubs recently? are you still happy with them?” I am near-certain to get a lengthy spoken history of club design and manufacturing flaws. Humans are most irritable about their most favored topics.
  • labrador 8 hours ago
    My Brave browser classifies this as a phishing site. Needless to say, I didn't proceed.
    • Bjartr 8 hours ago
      My Brave browser didn't flag it for anything.

      EDIT: Did some research, hier-im-netz.de appears to be a hosting platform offered to Deutsche Telekom customers. I suspect there's plenty of phishing or malware hosting going on on a variety of its subdomains, pulling down the safety score of all its subdomains.

      This specific page however seems fine